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		<title>By: jen d</title>
		<link>http://www.bostoncommoner.com/blog/archives/2005/03/07/a-call-for-curriculum/comment-page-1/#comment-729</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jen d]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam! So glad you stopped by--my little blog, but more so to our church! I, personally, was so happy to (finally!)meet you, and I think my brother liked you, too ;o) We hope you can visit us again! Keep us posted along the way :o)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam! So glad you stopped by&#8211;my little blog, but more so to our church! I, personally, was so happy to (finally!)meet you, and I think my brother liked you, too ;o) We hope you can visit us again! Keep us posted along the way :o)</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Samuel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the good book recommendations, all. Jen, your pastor and congregation are great--I very much enjoyed my visit a couple of Sundays ago. Most refreshing. Keep up the good blogging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the good book recommendations, all. Jen, your pastor and congregation are great&#8211;I very much enjoyed my visit a couple of Sundays ago. Most refreshing. Keep up the good blogging.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeri Massi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeri Massi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two years ago, troubled by the glaring errors and the tragic abuses of children and women in certain segments of Fundamentalism, I created an online journal of a fictional young woman at a Fundamental Baptist college very similar to Hyles Anderson, Oklahoma Bible College, Longview Baptist Temple, etc.  This dark comedy was widely read by many survivors of the abusive sects of Fundamentalists and very much opposed by certain IFB preachers.  

The story, SECRET RADIO, is not a scholarly work but rather an intense novel that captures what life is really like in one of these IFB, KJB, legalistic schools.

For people trying to grasp the culture, it&#039;s a worthy read.  But again, it&#039;s not going to give you footnotes or cross references.  Then again, it does present what the WOMEN in IFB-KJB circles have to endure, and that&#039;s a topic that I have not yet seen addressed by any preachers, although I know God remembers the abuse and seduction.

SECRET RADIO is now available in hard copy at this URL, http://www.cafepress.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=secretradio.13333423

As of April 19, the sequel to SECRET RADIO is scheduled to be presented on my blog.  This story, titled A STANDARD CHRISTIAN, is about the time after college for so many HAC, OBC, TBC, etc., graduates, when real life hits them and they find they have no real faith because all their beliefs are centered in man and not Christ.

The URL for A STANDARD CHRISTIAN is http://home.earthlink.net/~graceblog/blogger.htm

Remember, the sequel does not begin until April 19, and it&#039;s not as descriptive of the IFB-KJB culture as its predecessor, SECRET RADIO (however, it is free!). Once people get out of the cult-like schools, their recovery/reaction can vary a lot from everybody else&#039;s.

So, if you can afford about $25 for a novel that will thrust you into that culture and give you insights into the thinking, errors, and way of life of the IFB-KJB strata of Hyles and his ilk, I strongly recommend SECRET RADIO.  It certainly garnered many grateful comments and emails from survivors, and it culled a good handful of angry retorts as well from preachers who support that culture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two years ago, troubled by the glaring errors and the tragic abuses of children and women in certain segments of Fundamentalism, I created an online journal of a fictional young woman at a Fundamental Baptist college very similar to Hyles Anderson, Oklahoma Bible College, Longview Baptist Temple, etc.  This dark comedy was widely read by many survivors of the abusive sects of Fundamentalists and very much opposed by certain IFB preachers.  </p>
<p>The story, SECRET RADIO, is not a scholarly work but rather an intense novel that captures what life is really like in one of these IFB, KJB, legalistic schools.</p>
<p>For people trying to grasp the culture, it&#8217;s a worthy read.  But again, it&#8217;s not going to give you footnotes or cross references.  Then again, it does present what the WOMEN in IFB-KJB circles have to endure, and that&#8217;s a topic that I have not yet seen addressed by any preachers, although I know God remembers the abuse and seduction.</p>
<p>SECRET RADIO is now available in hard copy at this URL, <a href="http://www.cafepress.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=secretradio.13333423" rel="nofollow">http://www.cafepress.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=secretradio.13333423</a></p>
<p>As of April 19, the sequel to SECRET RADIO is scheduled to be presented on my blog.  This story, titled A STANDARD CHRISTIAN, is about the time after college for so many HAC, OBC, TBC, etc., graduates, when real life hits them and they find they have no real faith because all their beliefs are centered in man and not Christ.</p>
<p>The URL for A STANDARD CHRISTIAN is <a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~graceblog/blogger.htm" rel="nofollow">http://home.earthlink.net/~graceblog/blogger.htm</a></p>
<p>Remember, the sequel does not begin until April 19, and it&#8217;s not as descriptive of the IFB-KJB culture as its predecessor, SECRET RADIO (however, it is free!). Once people get out of the cult-like schools, their recovery/reaction can vary a lot from everybody else&#8217;s.</p>
<p>So, if you can afford about $25 for a novel that will thrust you into that culture and give you insights into the thinking, errors, and way of life of the IFB-KJB strata of Hyles and his ilk, I strongly recommend SECRET RADIO.  It certainly garnered many grateful comments and emails from survivors, and it culled a good handful of angry retorts as well from preachers who support that culture.</p>
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		<title>By: MÎµÏ„Î±Î¼Î¿ÏÏ†ÏŒÏ‰ </title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MÎµÏ„Î±Î¼Î¿ÏÏ†ÏŒÏ‰ ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Why Fundamentalism&lt;/strong&gt;
Lately there has been lot of discussion has taking place concerning the future of the Fundamentalist movement. Weblogs and articles such as those found on SharperIron, Emeth Aletheia, Pensees, Bails, To Give an Answer, and the Boston Commoner Â have be...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Why Fundamentalism</strong><br />
Lately there has been lot of discussion has taking place concerning the future of the Fundamentalist movement. Weblogs and articles such as those found on SharperIron, Emeth Aletheia, Pensees, Bails, To Give an Answer, and the Boston Commoner Â have be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Fleener</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Fleener]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 17:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are a few more:

Jim Owen - The Hidden History of the Historic Fundamentalists, 1933-1948 Reconsidering the Historic Fundamentalists&#039; Response to the Upheavals, Hardship, and Horrors of the 1930s and 1940s

Richard J. Mouw - The Smell of Sawdust: What Evangelicals Can Learn from Their Fundamentalist Heritage

Timothy George ed. - Pilgrams on the Sawdust Trail; Evangelical Ecumenism and the Quest for Christian Identity]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are a few more:</p>
<p>Jim Owen &#8211; The Hidden History of the Historic Fundamentalists, 1933-1948 Reconsidering the Historic Fundamentalists&#8217; Response to the Upheavals, Hardship, and Horrors of the 1930s and 1940s</p>
<p>Richard J. Mouw &#8211; The Smell of Sawdust: What Evangelicals Can Learn from Their Fundamentalist Heritage</p>
<p>Timothy George ed. &#8211; Pilgrams on the Sawdust Trail; Evangelical Ecumenism and the Quest for Christian Identity</p>
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		<title>By: dmd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dmd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 01:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great question and pursuit. My short list would be:

By Fundamentalists:
Beale, Pursuit of Purity
Pickering, Biblical Separation &amp; The Tragedy of Compromise
Sidwell, The Dividing Line
McCune, Promise Unfulfilled
Lightner, The Neo Evangelicalism (Dallas prof; written when Dallas was opposed to it)

By Evangelicals:
Marsden, Reforming Fundamentalism
Murray, Evangelicalism Divided
Hart, Deconstructing Evangelicalism
Carpenter, Revive Us Again]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great question and pursuit. My short list would be:</p>
<p>By Fundamentalists:<br />
Beale, Pursuit of Purity<br />
Pickering, Biblical Separation &#038; The Tragedy of Compromise<br />
Sidwell, The Dividing Line<br />
McCune, Promise Unfulfilled<br />
Lightner, The Neo Evangelicalism (Dallas prof; written when Dallas was opposed to it)</p>
<p>By Evangelicals:<br />
Marsden, Reforming Fundamentalism<br />
Murray, Evangelicalism Divided<br />
Hart, Deconstructing Evangelicalism<br />
Carpenter, Revive Us Again</p>
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		<title>By: mounty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mounty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s been about six years at this point, and Jared went to school a solid 1,500 miles northwest of me. All I know is she was a pastor&#039;s daughter from Boston, from a well-spoken-of church. Seems to fit the description.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been about six years at this point, and Jared went to school a solid 1,500 miles northwest of me. All I know is she was a pastor&#8217;s daughter from Boston, from a well-spoken-of church. Seems to fit the description.</p>
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		<title>By: missions pastor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[missions pastor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read George Marsden&#039;s &quot;Reforming Fundamentalism.&quot; This book (from outside both camps) will help you understand the rise of the New Evangelicalism ans some of what has formed modern fundamentalism (at least the strain we are in). After that Rolland McCune&#039;s &quot;Promise Unfulfilled&quot; will fill in perspective from the fundamentalist (again, from our perspective) side of things. McCune&#039;s book has an annotated bibliography which will point out many other works from varying perspectives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read George Marsden&#8217;s &#8220;Reforming Fundamentalism.&#8221; This book (from outside both camps) will help you understand the rise of the New Evangelicalism ans some of what has formed modern fundamentalism (at least the strain we are in). After that Rolland McCune&#8217;s &#8220;Promise Unfulfilled&#8221; will fill in perspective from the fundamentalist (again, from our perspective) side of things. McCune&#8217;s book has an annotated bibliography which will point out many other works from varying perspectives.</p>
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		<title>By: jen d</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jen d]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 17:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the thoughts, guys. Mounty, I agree that the current cultural def of fundamentalism isn&#039;t what the original def was meant to be; the recent Johnson article helped fill in a few more gaps for me, but I&#039;m still embarrassingly in the dark over a movement I suppose I&#039;ve been a part of all along--that said, I have to admit that when Dr. Johnson classified himself as a &quot;true&quot; fundamentalist, not because he accepted a label (he doesn&#039;t; nor does he imply that if you DO accept the label, you can&#039;t be a &quot;true&quot; fundamentalist, by his definition), but because he believes there are essential elements/doctrines to the gospel of Christ which cannot be compromised, watered-down, or removed without making that gospel unrecognizable and therefore false, etc. I&#039;d said as much to people before the web discussion re3ally took root. I think a lot of people probably feel that way: we are loyal to the Scriptuires and to Christ, not any &quot;movement&quot; (or personality) per se, as such movements/etc. have a way of changing...Of course, if you haven&#039;t read the Johnson article, I&#039;m not making much sense, am I? Check it out at sharperiron.org.

On a totally unrelated note, if you DO indeed know the same Christine Edmondson I&#039;m priviledged to have met once upon a time, she is now married and mother to a lovely baby boy, Isaac :o)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughts, guys. Mounty, I agree that the current cultural def of fundamentalism isn&#8217;t what the original def was meant to be; the recent Johnson article helped fill in a few more gaps for me, but I&#8217;m still embarrassingly in the dark over a movement I suppose I&#8217;ve been a part of all along&#8211;that said, I have to admit that when Dr. Johnson classified himself as a &#8220;true&#8221; fundamentalist, not because he accepted a label (he doesn&#8217;t; nor does he imply that if you DO accept the label, you can&#8217;t be a &#8220;true&#8221; fundamentalist, by his definition), but because he believes there are essential elements/doctrines to the gospel of Christ which cannot be compromised, watered-down, or removed without making that gospel unrecognizable and therefore false, etc. I&#8217;d said as much to people before the web discussion re3ally took root. I think a lot of people probably feel that way: we are loyal to the Scriptuires and to Christ, not any &#8220;movement&#8221; (or personality) per se, as such movements/etc. have a way of changing&#8230;Of course, if you haven&#8217;t read the Johnson article, I&#8217;m not making much sense, am I? Check it out at sharperiron.org.</p>
<p>On a totally unrelated note, if you DO indeed know the same Christine Edmondson I&#8217;m priviledged to have met once upon a time, she is now married and mother to a lovely baby boy, Isaac :o)</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 16:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I posted a bit of a book list once upon a time: http://www.graceandpeace.us/archives/2004/04/06/fundamentalism_books_recommended_to_me.html
Still haven&#039;t plowed through them all, so I don&#039;t have much more commentary on what they&#039;re like.
Ian Murray has two good books not on that list: Revival and Revivalism and Evangelicalism Divided. Joel over at Unknowing has just finished discussing Evangelicalism Divided.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a bit of a book list once upon a time: <a href="http://www.graceandpeace.us/archives/2004/04/06/fundamentalism_books_recommended_to_me.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.graceandpeace.us/archives/2004/04/06/fundamentalism_books_recommended_to_me.html</a><br />
Still haven&#8217;t plowed through them all, so I don&#8217;t have much more commentary on what they&#8217;re like.<br />
Ian Murray has two good books not on that list: Revival and Revivalism and Evangelicalism Divided. Joel over at Unknowing has just finished discussing Evangelicalism Divided.</p>
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